Thursday, May 18, 2017

I love the smell of impeachment in the morning.

Okay so many of us on the left have been talking impeachment since even before Trump was ever sworn into office.

Let's face it at that time it was just some wishful thinking by a bunch of lefties who were angry and confused by the outcome of the 2016 election.

But that is no longer the case my friends.

Courtesy of The Hill: 

Restive Democrats urging the impeachment of President Trump are amplifying their case Wednesday following new reports suggesting Trump pressed the FBI to drop a probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn. 

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) spoke out at a closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting Wednesday morning, underscoring the urgency of removing Trump, whom the Democrats increasingly see as a national security liability. 

Also Wednesday morning, Rep. Al Green (D-Texas), who joined the impeachment push earlier in the week, took to the House floor to trumpet that call, characterizing his decision as a ”position of conscience.” 

"This is where I stand; I will not be moved,” said Green. “The president must be impeached."

Okay well this is a little more official since it is coming from actual Democrats in the House, but let's face it without Republicans on board there is no way to remove Trump from office.

But wait....

Courtesy of Mother Jones: 

For the first time, Republican members of Congress have gone on record suggesting that one of the scandals engulfing President Donald Trump could be an impeachable offense. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) said Wednesday that if Trump did indeed ask former FBI Director James Comey to drop the bureau's investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, then that would constitute grounds for impeachment, according to the Hill's Cristina Marcos.

Amash was actually the second Republican lawmaker to suggest that Trump's alleged effort to shut down the Flynn probe could be an impeachable offense. "Any effort to stop the federal government from conducting an investigation, any effort to dissuade federal agents from proceeding with an investigation, is very serious and could be construed as obstruction of justice," said Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.) on CNN Tuesday night. He added, "Obstruction of justice—in the case of Nixon, in the case of Clinton in the late 90s—has been considered an impeachable offense."

Now only two House Republicans making these statements certainly does not constitute a groundswell, but it IS the first step.

And in my opinion it is a step on a path that many other Republicans will soon find themselves on as well.

In less than four months Trump has suffered one self inflicted wound after another, and the wounds just keep getting deeper and deeper.

It does not seem possible that leaking that classified information to the Russians, and having it revealed that he attempted to get the FBI Director to drop that Russian collusion investigation, is survivable even by Donald Trump.

And we know for a fact that there are still more scandals to come. 

Right now the Trump White House has zero credibility, so even if there WERE a false story printed by a news outlet very few people would believe a denial coming from the Trump Administration.

With a seemingly endless supply of gaffes and no credibility with the American people it feels like it is all done but the crying.

But here's the rub.

The first in the line of succession after Donald Trump is VP Mike Pence, who is perhaps in many ways even more dangerous to the country than Donald Trump.

Mike Pence does not believe in a woman's right to choose, does not believe in marriage equality, does not support legalized marijuana, is pro-school vouchers, is not a supporter of clean energy, and plays just as fast and loose with the truth as Donald Trump.

Replacing Trump with Pence might seem like a good trade, but in fact it is not.

However if by some miracle Pence were also impeached, or forced out of office right along with Trump, that would leave Paul Ryan as the next in the line of succession.

I think we all know just what is wrong with having Ryan in the Oval Office. (The man has never met a social program that he thinks should last one more day.)

So even though it seems more likely than ever that Trump may be impeached what exactly does that solve for the Democrats?

Not a whole hell of a lot.

But there is one somewhat comforting thought. Donald Trump is a scorched earth personality type, so when the effort to remove him from office actually kicks off he is going to go on the attack.

By the time they pry Trump's stubby orange fingers from the doorjamb of the White House front entrance, he may have so damaged his named successor and the Republican party that the Dems could run Anthony Wiener in 2020 and still take back the presidency.

In the meantime I suggest all of you stock up on popcorn, because this three ring circus is just getting started.


  1. Anonymous4:05 AM

    Don't start sniffing too much Gryphen. As horrible and incompetent as Trump is, he still has a large significant following. Plus, his party owns Congress. Impeachment will be a hard sell with all of them.

    1. As Impeachment Talk Hits the Mainstream, Over a Dozen Nervous House Republicans Have Flipped on Trump

      and the dozen are listed including Gowdy.

      12. Rep. Trey Gowdy, South Carolina

      Gowdy made a name for himself as a Benghazi conspiracy theorist and Republican hardliner, but in a Fox News interview he broke with Ryan about the need for an investigation. A former prosecutor himself, Gowdy said there was “sufficient evidentiary basis for a crime” and expressed the hope that the Justice Department could bring charges. If not, he said he was “open-minded” about a special prosecutor. He also took pains to praise the reporting of the New York Times.

      If Gowdy turns on Trump, it will be a sign the president's prospects are growing ever more dire.

    2. If you want to peer into the psyche of the American people, read the comments on Fox News FB

      threats if Trump is impeached... and the usual delusions, but also some anti-Trump posts like this:

      Heather Tardel
      Someone isn't happy. You'd think people were alleging that he wasn't a US citizen. Or that he even existed at all. Or that he was a secret Muslim. Or that his children belonged to someone else. Or that his mother-in-law was on the government payroll. Or that when he bumped fists with his wife, that was actually a "terrorist fist jab."

      GregandPaula Baker
      GregandPaula Baker ARE YOU STUPID HE IS A MUSLIM

      Heather Tardel
      Heather Tardel GregandPaula Baker -- sure, and Trump is a Christian 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    3. Anonymous6:17 AM

      Doesn't matter what his supporters think at this point, they are in the minority.

      Besides that didn't stop the republicans from harassing President Obama for 8 years and still doing it.

      One of the reasons Nixon was going to be impeached was the PUBLIC out roar.

  2. Anonymous4:43 AM

    Roger Ailes dead.

    1. Anonymous5:14 AM

      You know you're living in dystopian times when the first thing you think of is -- natural causes....? what did he know and when did he know it .....? did he threaten to "talk"........?

    2. Anonymous7:06 AM

      Yeah or he is out of USA.
      Lie to us "tragic death".
      Same chit different players.
      Money the root of evil deeds.

    3. Anonymous8:16 AM

      7:06 I thought that as well. On his own private island.

    4. Anonymous10:13 AM

      706 they learned that from Russia. Repeat of history.

    5. Anonymous4:34 PM

      Great news! Ding dong that ass is dead ... which old ass! The Ailes old ass!!! Roast in hell.

    6. Anonymous4:44 PM

      News says accidental death.
      I can smell Russia from here.
      And I can't smell a damn thing. Snark.

  3. Anonymous4:44 AM

    OH SHIT!







    “The best dinner we ever went to,” Wigmore said. “Around that table were all the rejects of the political world — and the rejects of the political world are now effectively in the White House..."

    3 days ago

    Secret document reveals shady ties between Trump megadonor Robert Mercer, Steve Bannon and Brexit

    A secret legal document shows two Brexit campaigns may have illegally coordinated under the direction of Trump megadonor Robert Mercer....

    “To have a billionaire so directly buying influence in a British election is absolutely unheard of,” said Gavin Millar, an election law expert. “This is completely out of the ordinary, and what’s clear is that our electoral laws are hopelessly inadequate. The only way we would be able to find the truth of what happened is through a public inquiry.”

    Cadwalladr has been probing the links between the Trump campaign and the Brexit campaigns through Cambridge Analytica — which she said leads directly to Mercer and his close associate, Steve Bannon, who is now President Donald Trump’s chief strategist....

    Bannon headed Cambridge Analytica during the Brexit referendum, and after it passed he joined another Mercer associate,Kellyanne Conway, to lead the Trump campaign during its final months.

    Cadwalladr has been tugging the threads connecting those Trump campaign figures to the Brexit referendum since Leave.EU’s communications director, Andy Wigmore, told her that Farage was close friends with both Bannon and Mercer.

    Wigmore said Farage, Mercer, Bannon and other future Trump associates had met at a conference in Washington.

    “The best dinner we ever went to,” Wigmore said. “Around that table were all the rejects of the political world — and the rejects of the political world are now effectively in the White House. It’s extraordinary. (Attorney General) Jeff Sessions. (Former national security adviser Michael) Flynn, the whole lot of them. They were all there.”....

    But Wigmore said the Leave campaign served a “petri dish” for the Trump campaign, which drew Mercer’s backing after Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) fell behind in the Republican primaries.

    “We shared a lot of information because what they were trying to do and what we were trying to do had massive parallels,” Wigmore said.

    During the U.S. presidential campaign, Cambridge Analytica lawfully gathered mountains of data on Facebook users and then used tactics developed by the military to individually target them on social media with political messaging....

  4. Anonymous4:48 AM




    Donald J. Trump ✔

    With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!

    4:39 AM - 18 May 2017

    1. Anonymous5:11 AM

      That's right bozo. Why? because there was never a case against hilary. Special Counsel is reserved for REAL crimes not made up crimes. And you are the main event today.

    2. Anonymous6:19 AM

      Boo hoo hoo, show us the proof.

    3. Anonymous7:07 AM

      How do you want it there 619?

    4. Anonymous7:13 AM

      Poor little donnie, people are just not taking him seriously :)

      Next he will be tweeting “you won’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore” or “I am not a crook”:)

      “Councel” must be the russian spelling !!!!

      ‘You got a special counsel faster — you’re winning!’: Internet scorches Trump after online meltdown

  5. Anonymous4:53 AM

    Disgusting how media is lionizing Ailes.
    Fat fuck that helped riuin country is dead.

    1. Anonymous5:57 AM

      Another stop to add to your tour book of "Republican graves to piss on." We better plan longer vacations.

    2. Anonymous7:08 AM

      Sure he Does? I mean faking deaths is how they do it?

    3. Anonymous7:58 AM

      Good riddance of Trump and Ailes.

  6. Anonymous4:56 AM

    They said we wouldn't elect a black man. Done-twice. They said that man had no credentials. He wasn't equipped for the job.-Wrong,one of the best presidents elected in our lifetime. They tried to roll back America to the 1950s .Complete with the unemployed,hungry families,rampant homelessness, segregation,and all the ills of society we've fought so hard to overcome,that will follow as a result.A corrupt,lawless society. A country of the haves,and the have nots. They say we can't cleanse our nation of Drumpfs and his deplorables-Yes,we can!!!! Now ,get out and Vote!

  7. Anonymous5:02 AM

    Roger Ailes is Dead.

    1. Almost makes you wish you believed in a hell so he could spend eternity there.

    2. Anonymous4:47 PM

      Alaska has active volcanos available. Drop off services.
      Pick up not available.
      Oh too late for him though.
      Who else can we con into a "scenic helicopter ride"???

    3. Anonymous6:14 PM

      He died after hitting his head.

  8. Anonymous5:02 AM


    The guy who gave Sarah Palin a job for her looks but cut her loose after she went down hill...


    Sarah Palin Curse?

    1. Anonymous5:15 AM

      Wish that I could feel one ounce of sympathy. Actually that's a lie. I don't.

  9. Anonymous5:08 AM

    Are we sure old ugly ailes died or just went into hiding since the shitfest exploded? Hmmmmm. I suspect several will suddenly disappear and slink off to some remote toxic dump site.
    Never have visited Zerohedge-Vance Lanci blog but story caught my eye. Headline reads: Millions will march in dc if trump is impeached, armed. comment was made by sometime con Bon Scott. Really? 1 million? and what would they hope to accomplish? jail time? What a bunch of rabid animals. Marching to doom and despair. US Military and Law enforcement will not put up with 1 million mental patients armed in DC or anywhere.

    1. Anonymous5:59 AM

      Yea, the peepond put that up last night. ANd came awfully close - crossed the line if they were in the least bit capable- about armed threats against Deputy AG, Congresscritters and Mueller.

    2. Anonymous6:55 AM

      "Are we sure old ugly ailes died or just went into hiding since the shitfest exploded?" To this Island?

      "Epstein only took on clients who turned over $1 billion, at minimum, for him to manage. Clients also had to pay a flat fee and sign power of attorney over to Epstein, allowing him to do whatever he saw fit with their money.“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”he could make hundreds of dollars in one hour, just for massaging some middle-aged guy’s feet. Lots of other girls had been doing it, some three times a week." “He was a really built guy. But his wee-wee was very tiny.”
      "“I’m not a sexual predator, I’m an ‘offender,’ ” Epstein told The Post in 2011. “It’s the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel.”

    3. Anonymous7:12 AM

      Ask Russia. Or CRIMEa as another poster says is a hideaway. Oh if he's pulling a "dead" excuse while escorted out of country. Cough. It will be found out.
      We have technology now.
      Be careful what you wish for ogliarchs. You will be exposed. Ask Sarah about it.

    4. Anonymous7:31 AM

      Epstein's peepee was described as egg shaped and small at the tip. He's a freak.

    5. Anonymous8:18 AM

      Sounds uncircumcised is all

    6. Anonymous10:16 AM

      North Korea will nuke Allies!

    7. Anonymous4:49 PM

      Let em nuke Russia. They shot themselves in the foot with Cheryanobol nuclear facility.
      Imbeciles. Put down the vodka.

  10. Anonymous5:10 AM

    For information purposes only:


  11. Anonymous5:12 AM

    Donald J. Trump
    Twitter › realDonaldTrump

    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

    1 hour ago · Twitter

    1. Anonymous6:00 AM

      Debunked two hours ago. Yawn. Entertaining shitgibbon though, ain't Little Teeny Fingers?

    2. Anonymous6:28 AM

      Always has to be the “greatest” at everything :)

      Is that his guilty conscience speaking? Because the special prosecutor didn’t mention investing trump personally.

      Demanding the President of the USA prove his citizenship wasn’t a witch-hunt?

    3. Anonymous9:52 AM

      @6:28 Freudian $Lip? Good One!
      "special prosecutor didn’t mention INVESTing trump personally."

  12. Anonymous5:14 AM

    All the lawsuits and money took fox nation on a wild toad ride. They ask for it? And so they got it. And it aint over yet.

  13. Anonymous5:16 AM

    The smell of impeachment? It smells like don john trumps outhouses.

  14. Anonymous5:21 AM

    Has the asshole left our country yet? Saudis are ready to dazzle him with pee pee. The pope with an exorcism. Israel with shitski pie in the eye. Yep. the old ugly deranged ass will surely be welcomed at nato. And the whole thang TAPED.

  15. Anonymous5:23 AM

    When Trump ran for president, he had Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr on his transition team and when Trump won, he gave them positions in the White House.

    I was thinking OH SHIT!

    Trump is setting up his kids to be president or Washington DC players in the future.

    No more worries

    As soon as Trump is impeached, Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr,




  16. Anonymous5:27 AM

    Rodger Ailes has died!

  17. Anonymous5:27 AM

    How much money did the American taxpayers pay for the security improvements to Trump Tower and Mar-A-Lago? Will they get their money back after he is impeached before the end of the year?

    1. Anonymous6:30 AM

      That is what I want to know, they should add a clause in that we should be reimbursed for all that wasted money,plus security and improvements to his children's homes and trips.

    2. Anonymous7:01 AM

      I want to know about that remodel job of the dining room off oval office that trump claims to have personally paid for? He ripped the shit out of the place looking for wires and adding his own shit. He claims that he found hidden gold in the walls? Really? and where is it now? And when was it put there? and that pos touched it?

    3. Anonymous7:51 AM

      adding his own shit
      like eavesdropping devices :)

      all I heard was he was bragging he added a chandelier "at his own expense".

      little donnie never pays for anything, so how did he manage to bill the taxpayers ?

    4. Nope. It's done and Trump gets to keep it for free.

      Not even sure he has to pay taxes on the improvements.

  18. Anonymous5:28 AM

    This is exactly why it is advantageous that it takes a while for the whole impeachment process to work - time enough for fence to become even more damaged as details to come out AND time enough for repugs as a whole to become damaged to the point of losing the House in 2018.
    Also, too, ding dong the witch is dead!

  19. Anonymous5:39 AM

    IFLOTUS (Immigrant First Lady):
    Damn that fat orange turd! I could be living in my golden perch looking down at the New York peasants but the orange turd wanted me to move into the White House so it looks like we have a normal marriage. Now I'm living out of paper bags in the WH because I don't know when he will be impeached and I will be kicked out of the White House in disgrace.

    1. Anonymous7:03 AM

      Kinda think it was an arranged marriage by putin. She was more than likely a low class model in the human trafficking ring to usa. Don help her out and he owns her. Poor thang.

    2. Anonymous7:53 AM

      I hope we don't have to foot the bill to move Melanomia to the WH, just to have to kick her out in a few months.

  20. Anonymous5:39 AM

    Ahhh the new Ben and Jerry's ice cream.....Impeachment!

    Sour peach and a lot of nuts

  21. Some love for my dead bro Roger5:46 AM

    Friends-Roger Ailes has died.

    He was a manly man who was able to piss into a gale without any blowback.

    He was a man who they say respected women, yet still Roger the old perv wasn't afraid to laugh with the pussy grabbers and loofah shit talkers he employed and paid corporate settlements so they could stay employed.

    Roger looked like one of those fat fucker out of shape walking coronaries, but he could run a marathon whenever he wanted to, and often did secretly under an assumed name.

    Roger was a short man, but his prick was almost as large as the Prick that's currently the POTUS! Just ask one of his ex wives like Windy Dung!

    In short, Roger Ailes is dead, and he'll be buried in secret so all the libtard snowflakes won't be pissing their trendy beer all over his tombstone.

    Any rumors that he was stressed out about the SEC investigation of Fox News, or the tRUMP special prosecutor are so untrue. Those rumored pics of all the sexytimes that were always going on are also just as fake as the rumor that Mike Moore's movie "Me and Roger" was really about Roger and Fox News burning down democracy and the American way of life.

    1. Anonymous6:54 AM

      Pissing trendy beer will be the least of the celebration. I kinda think that large prick has a nice secluded outhouse to hide in. It wont be secret for long. All smucks duck when the outhouse is in flames..

  22. Anonymous5:53 AM

    Watched a couple of cooler head types (and former FBI(?) folks who had been involved in the Watergate investigation. Their timeline form appointment of special prosecutor to impeachment hearing is something like 12-18 months.

    That will tie up everything until just about the 2018 elections. Having a crazy (R) prez isn't as much of a problem with a (D) Congress to keep him in check. GOTV, STARTING NOW.

    1. Anonymous1:05 PM

      I think it'll be faster than 12-18 months.

      This case is different than the previous ones. Everything about it has moved at super high speed, and Mueller is exceptionally experienced and knowledgeable. It could go much more quickly.

      However, even if Trump is gone before the midterms, it's still going to be disastrous for the Repubs.

  23. Anonymous5:56 AM

    What is worse? The Sarah Palin Curse or the Trump Curse?

    1. Anonymous9:11 AM

      Well Sarah has to use some shit internet channel rather than the Oval Office to do whatever the fuck she does.

  24. Anonymous6:14 AM

    LOL, harassing a president to prove he is an American citizenship wasn’t a witch hunt? How about Benghazi, white water and email “scandal” etc.

    Little donnie thinks too much of himself if he thinks this is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician and methinks he doth protest too much.

    What a fine example of a Commander in Chief, whining to Coast Guard graduates that everyone is mean to him, did he also tell them they probable will be unemployed because he wants to slash the coast guard budget (except at Mar a Lago of course)

    How in the hell was Flynn blocking military actions BEFORE trump was in office?
    Trump assails 'witch hunt' after naming of special counsel
    By ERIC TUCKER, JULIE PACE and NANCY BENAC - The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump lashed out at the appointment of a special counsel to investigate allegations that his campaign collaborated with Russia to sway the 2016 election, tweeting Thursday that it is "the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!"...

    .... In another Twitter post Thursday, Trump said: "With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel (sic) appointed!" He did not provide examples or evidence of any alleged "illegal acts."....

    .... Trump has repeatedly slammed the FBI and congressional investigations as a "hoax" and blamed disgruntled officials at intelligence agencies for leaking information related to the probes. During a commencement address Wednesday at the Coast Guard Academy, he complained bitterly about criticism he's faced.

    "No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly," he said. "You can't let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. ... I guess that's why we won. Adversity makes you stronger. Don't give in, don't back down. ... And the more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face."

    ... Separately, McClatchy News Service reported Wednesday that before Trump took office, Flynn had blocked an Obama administration military plan, opposed by Turkey, against the Islamic State group. Unknown to the Obama administration, Flynn had been paid more than $500,000 to advocate for Turkey's interests.

    McClatchy says Flynn declined to OK a request from Obama officials to approve a military operation involving the IS stronghold of Raqqa, effectively delaying the operation. The Trump team had been asked since the operation was likely to be carried out after Trump took office. Turkey has long opposed U.S. forces working with Kurdish forces.

  25. I'm not excited by impeachment--namely because the next in line are Mike Pence and Paul Ryan who will just smile and wreck the place for a libertarian or theocratic hell hole.

    But I do want Trump howling like a two year old who needs a nap.

    1. Anonymous6:34 AM

      Mike Pence is not the boyscout he is trying to portray himself to be. He has lied on several occasions.

    2. Anonymous7:19 AM

      Q-Tip Pence.

    3. Anonymous7:23 AM

      Oh mikey pence was selected for that sheepie grin for that snow white hair, for the shifty eyes and for the holy than thou stance and also for that wife that goes along with it all.

    4. Anonymous7:52 AM

      6-6-6pence=the Beast

      J. Kushner

  26. Anonymous6:36 AM

    Hopefully the special prosecutor will discover if Pence is involved in all this.

    I still have a problem with him lying the American public in order to do damage control for the Victim-in-Chief.

    As bad as Ryan would be or Pence for that matter, we have survived a republican in the WH before, it will take a while for before Congress decides to impeachment, who knows maybe we will have to wait until after the 2018 elections.

    Then again, little donnie is on the rampage, who knows what crime he will commit next.

    1. Anonymous7:21 AM

      Don only knows crime. He will not survive unless he can con and commit crime. The ass has been using crime and deceit his entire life. Daddy sent him to be totally programed at juvenile detention unmilitary camp at age 12. And he was taught to lie and cheat better than ever by those in the know. And here we are 58yrs later. The biggest and brightest asshole on earth. Trump.

    2. Anonymous7:40 PM

      When he realizes that he is going down, little Donnie will not go quietly. He will tear down as many as he can from the GOP, and that is just fine with me!

  27. Anonymous7:12 AM

    Hmmm? Lets see.....
    No USA banks will touch the trumps...check
    No more mobster money....check
    Stock market crashing....check
    Donors dying and fleeing.....check
    A complete failure and break down....check
    The trump organization is gone, broke, over, finished, done, BK, doomed. No money to pay the attorneys for 600 lawsuits and criminal defense. Wow. The don johns shithouse is in flames....check.

    1. Anonymous10:19 AM

      Yeah he can give back those checks. Especially one from that old Russian. Cough.

  28. Anonymous7:15 AM

    When they say “ don’t read into this .... it means we should be.

    I guess little donnie will have to fire him for not being loyal :)

    By the way, does little donnie get to keep all the PAC money for his re-election campaign?

    Mike Pence sets up his own PAC as scandals rain down on Trump White House

    Vice President Mike Pence has set up a political action committee on the same week that the Trump administration is suffering from its worst week of scandals yet.

    NBC News reports that Pence this week filed paperwork to form the Great America Committee, which will aim to “aid his own future political interests, including helping Republican candidates ahead of the 2018 midterms” and will “be able to use the funds to cover the costs of the vice president’s travels on Air Force Two to campaign on behalf of GOP candidates across the country.”

    This is unusual, as NBC notes that no sitting vice president has ever set up their own PAC before. The timing is interesting as well, as it comes as the Trump White House is suffering from its worst week yet thanks to revelations that the president gave classified information to Russian government officials and that he allegedly asked former FBI Director James Comey to stop investigating former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

    However, one source tells NBC News that no one should think that Pence’s PAC has been formed as a preparation to run for president in 2020 if Trump is somehow ousted from office.

    “Don’t read into 2020 as anything other than his running for re-election as vice president in 2020 and supporting other candidates,” the source claimed.

  29. Anonymous7:48 AM

    Pence was suppose to have “vetted” Flynn, so maybe we will be getting a two for one impeachment. Trump and Pence.
    Mike Flynn Trump ISIS Turkey Trump Grand Jury Trump More Secret Russia Meetings … And Trump!
    First the Times:

    Michael T. Flynn told President Trump’s transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case.

    Despite this warning, which came about a month after the Justice Department notified Mr. Flynn of the inquiry, Mr. Trump made Mr. Flynn his national security adviser. The job gave Mr. Flynn access to the president and nearly every secret held by American intelligence agencies.

    OK, so maybe “nobody knew nothin” is no longer operative. Is there anything from McClatchy that can dovetail quite nicely with this?

    One of the Trump administration’s first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired – and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he’d been paid more than $500,000 to represent.

    The decision came 10 days before Donald Trump had been sworn in as president, in a conversation with President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, who had explained the Pentagon’s plan to retake the Islamic State’s de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces whom the Pentagon considered the U.S.’s most effective military partners. Obama’s national security team had decided to ask for Trump’s sign-off, since the plan would all but certainly be executed after Trump had become president.
    Flynn didn’t hesitate. According to timelines distributed by members of Congress in the weeks since, Flynn told Rice to hold off, a move that would delay the military operation for months. […]

    [H]is position was consistent with the wishes of Turkey, which had long opposed the United States partnering with the Kurdish forces – and which was his undeclared client.
    So let’s make sure we read that right (we read that right). Flynn, who had secretly taken more than half a million dollars from Turkey — which the Trump transition team, headed by Mike Pence, knew about — didn’t okay an attack on ISIS because Turkey wouldn’t like it.......

    1. Anonymous1:10 PM

      Interesting to wonder if Obama set the trump team up for this by inviting their input and leaving it up to them to make the call.

      You know Obama had to know about the Flynn-Turkey connection. This would be a way to make nail them for it.

  30. Anonymous8:23 AM

    We must ALL remember everyday that Pence bankrupted Indiana, that he would never have won re-election and that he marginalized everyone he possibly could, especially women.

  31. Anonymous10:21 AM

    Hey North Korea.

    Kill us All.

    Let God Sort us out.

    Corruption beyond repair.

    USA must be punished.

  32. Anonymous1:21 PM

    "However if by some miracle Pence were also impeached, or forced out of office right along with Trump, that would leave Paul Ryan as the next in the line of succession."

    I have to take issue with this. Unless Trump and Pence were both impeached and removed from office at the exact same time, Pence would become president, and the very first thing he would do is install a VP. The likelihood of Trump and Pence being booted out of office simultaneously is zero. He might be impeached, too, but either before or after Trump, not together.

    Whoever Pence chose would then be next in line, not lyin' Ryan.

    The only other way we get Ryan as POTUS is if both Trump and Pence are killed simultaneously, for example in a terrorist attack.

    I'm really getting tired of seeing this idea that we are somehow going to get stuck with Ryan if Trump and Pence both are impeached. Not going to happen that way.

    Most likely as I see it, Trump gets the boot, Pence is embroiled but ultimately skates, pardons Donny (a la Gerald Ford), finishes his term, but loses to a Dem in 2020.

    With a Dem majority after 2018, Pence could get impeached and even possibly convicted by the Senate, but then we get whoever he chose at VP, who would also likely lose in 2020.

    Think about it. The President Ryan scenario just isn't going to happen.


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