Monday, February 04, 2013

Before you reference the Bible to support your homophobic, racist, sexist, or anti-science beliefs, you better make damn sure you have read the whole thing.

Here is the passage in its entirety:  

13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. 

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

Okay so here's the thing. If you are willing to accept the validity of this statement, and see it through to its "logical" conclusions for any family member or friend that fails to meet its standards, then I will listen with respect to your Biblical based reasons for hating the gays, subjugating women, or claiming that Genesis explains creation.

If not than we both agree that the book written many thousands of years ago has NO bearing on the decisions that we make in these modern times concerning civil rights, education, or how to raise our children.

21 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:22 AM

    OMG!! There are not enough rocks in Wasilla to deal with all the Palins promiscuity.

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  2. It's that damn fine print. It'll get
    ya every time....

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  3. Leland2:47 AM

    And of course, the bible hasn't ANY reference (at least, none of which I am aware) to the fact that it is NOT UNCOMMON for a girl to lose her hymen through rough play or exercise or in some cases by simple everyday movement! That's how much they knew about science and medicine!

    Yet the ignorant bastards (All MALE judges, naturally) just assumed that the girl was promiscuous and killed her.

    Anymore stupid questions about why so MANY of us find the entire idea of organized religion to be anathema to our minds and hearts?

    Gryphen, you are SO right about these modern pigs quoting only partially. They are truly offended when the entire verse or quote is presented and it TOTALLY destroys the intent of their partial quote as backing for what they are attempting to espouse. They are NOT happy campers then, and generally get angry. IDIOTS!

    A church from around here came to my door and was handing out leaflets, despite a sign I posted stipulating they were requested NOT to do so. They weren't happy campers, either, when they left because first I slammed them for ignoring my sign and then slammed them again by quoting the entire thing, which THOROUGHLY ticked them off.

    I filed a complaint with the police so that should they attempt it again I can take even further action.

    I despise proselytizing and it is even worse when it is done in so blindly ignorant a way.

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  4. Anonymous4:27 AM

    Biblical law = Sharia law.

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    1. Anonymous5:23 AM

      Reports: Saudi Cleric Beats 5-Year-Old Daughter To Death Over Virginity Concerns

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/03/fayhan-al-ghamdi-_n_2610841.html

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  5. Anonymous4:38 AM

    Morning Joe Heaps Praise On Fox’s Chris Wallace For ‘Drilling Down’ On NRA’s LaPierre’s ‘Stupid Arguments’

    “Wow! Chris Wallace, man,” Joe Scarborough reacted. “Good on him!”

    Looking at the class/elitist argument LaPierre made during the interview, Scarborough remarked, “I don’t know what’s wrong with him” — commenting on the hypocrisy of making such an argument despite having security guards himself.

    “And this argument — and Chris Wallace really drilled down hard here — the argument, seriously, that all of our children deserve the same amount of protection as the president of the United States’ children?” he continued. “That’s the problem with Wayne LaPierre and the extremist wing of the NRA’s arguments. They’re stupid arguments.”

    “It’s something Sarah Palin would say,” Mika Brzezinski chimed in.

    Mark Halperin, too, felt Wallace did an “outstanding” job: “What a journalist should do, without fear, favor or ideological point of view…a great job.” It was a “seminal moment,” he added, because it showed that many of LaPierre’s arguments are “not on point.”

    Take a look, via MSNBC:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/morning-joe-heaps-praise-on-foxs-chris-wallace-for-drilling-down-on-nras-lapierres-stupid-arguments/

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  6. Anonymous4:45 AM

    Alex Gibney’s Mea Maxima Culpa, premiering tonight on HBO, tackles the Catholic Church’s sordid history of sex abuse.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/04/alex-gibney-s-mea-maxima-culpa-sex-lies-and-the-catholic-church.html

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  7. Anonymous4:47 AM

    Republican Conspiracy Nuts on Obama's Skeet-Shooting Picture

    They're baaack! From Birthers to “Benghazi Flu,” right-wingers who see coverups around every corner have found a new obsession in “Skeet-Gate.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/03/republican-conspiracy-nuts-on-obama-s-skeet-shooting-picture.html

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  8. Anonymous5:05 AM

    Desperate GOP Floats Romney Names For John Kerry's Senate Seat

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/03/1184336/-DO-IT-Desperate-GOP-Floats-Romney-Name-For-John-Kerry-s-Senate-Seat

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    1. Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

      Oh, and last I checked, Rmoney was living in La Jolla, California

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  9. Anonymous5:15 AM

    A lot of people, mostly men, are simply disgusted with women being sexual beings. They self-hate for their own sexual needs and desires but want to take it out on women, be it a virgin child, a headstrong teen or young woman, or a 97 year old grandmother. "Whore" and "slut" are easily bandied about and rape is as much a threat as a bullet when civility fails.

    All men would be tyrants if they could, and the second our peaceful democratic system is challenged, lock up your wives and daughters cause we are the first to be subjugated.

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    1. Leland6:18 AM

      Being a male, I can only say one thing:

      I pity you if this is truly your picture of men. SOME men, yes. Most men? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL!

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    2. And we have no male counterpart epithets as strong or damaging as whore and slut.

      Asshole is about as close as you get, and it's not even.

      This is of course because males are praised for the sexual promiscuity and females condemned for it. One has to wonder, where are all these males getting it if all the girls are virgins? With each other?

      Kinda brings it back to being an Asshole.

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  10. AMEN BROTHER!!!
    :-
    (And I abhor the word "amen." Could be my staunch Catholic upbringing one might say.)

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  11. Anonymous8:55 AM

    and sometimes we miss the irony entirely...

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  12. Will Sarah Palin have Bristol stoned?

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  13. When they start advocating stoning the men who are not virgins, they might get my attention. Until then, fuck 'em.

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    1. Leland10:50 AM

      Lynne, that's EXACTLY what they want from the women and then be able to legally stone them to get rid of the evidence!

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  14. Anita Winecooler12:12 PM



    Wouldn't it be wonderful if these asshats get their wish to be judged by God, and God turned out to be female?

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  15. Anonymous2:20 PM

    @5:15am

    agree.

    Unfettered "maleness" is currently running amok in Muslim dominated countries. We can see how that is working out. Wasn't a 5 year old just killed by a "clergyman" for questions about her virginity?

    Testosterone is not to be underestimated.

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    1. Anonymous5:00 PM

      Not only did he kill her,he raped her multiple times in various orifices including anally and caused her to bleed.I understand she held on for several months in hospital before she perished.......and he pays a $50,000 and is home free.....digusting.

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